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> reporter: as the deadline to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff draws ever closer, republicans say the real issue is spending cuts. >> listen, republicans want to solve this problem by getting the spending line down. the president wants to pretend that spending isn't the problem. that's why we don't have an agreement. >> reporter: a claim the white house denies, spokesman jay carney. >> let's just be clear. there is one party to these negotiations who has put forward a specific proposal for revenue and a specific proposal for spending cuts. even when the republicans-- and i saw speaker boehner do this earlier today-- insist that the president hasn't put forward spending cuts, one, it begs the question, what spending cuts have the republicans put forward? >> reporter: the president was asked if he was optimistic about reaching a deal. >> still a work in progress. >> reporter: but senate majority leader harry reid said republicans in congress should yield to public opinion about tax increases. >> speaker boehner knows or should know that the middle- class tax help that we have to
> reporter: as the deadline to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff draws ever closer, republicans say the real issue is spending cuts. >> listen, republicans want to solve this problem by getting the spending line down. the president wants to pretend that spending isn't the problem. that's why we don't have an agreement. >> reporter: a claim the white house denies, spokesman jay carney. >> let's just be clear. there is one party to these negotiations who has put forward...
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if the fiscal cliff has, we'll go in recession. people will put off improving their home and it will impact my buds. >> abuds -- my business. >> you have more of the tax money going in, more money going in taxes. less goes in business that fix up and take care of business. we are not going to upgrade as many kitchen or replace as many appliances. the air conditioning stoves down the line. >> he said he will likely lay off employee to juggle the cost. >> big business, they if v full-time accountant and lawyers on their staff. it's part of the overhead and administration but for us it's extra expense off the top. >> it goes across the country. the latest gallup small business index released today find small business owners net capital spending inintentions for 12 months plunged to negative 14 in november. the lowest level two years. >> the dow lost 75. s&p 500 fell nine. nasdaq finished 22. down. finished 22 down. susan rice is out as potential secretary of state. we talk about that with the fox all-stars and the other cabinet shakeu
if the fiscal cliff has, we'll go in recession. people will put off improving their home and it will impact my buds. >> abuds -- my business. >> you have more of the tax money going in, more money going in taxes. less goes in business that fix up and take care of business. we are not going to upgrade as many kitchen or replace as many appliances. the air conditioning stoves down the line. >> he said he will likely lay off employee to juggle the cost. >> big business,...
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we don't know what will happen in this hour, in this meeting so we could still go over the fiscal cliff. the second poll, the best way or fix this budget problem, 57%. mostly spending cuts. raise my taxes. >> dana: this is the problem that the democrats are starting to realize, they let this go on too long. you never under estimate the obama administration tendency to overplay their hand. yes, they had a good hand, but they do too much. then the public catches up with what is going on here. they say wait a second, for spending cuts and the new stories are starting to change. that the democrats say they are not for that. >> bob: the people blame republicans if it doesn't work. they blame obama. if you brought up a number should rich people get tax increases overwhelmingly they yes. >> eric: let's talk about what is going on. president obama came out and said i want 1.6 trillion in new revenues. john boehner says we will give you $800 example in new revenue. obama came down to $1.4 trillion. boehner hasn't come back yet. if boehner offers $1 trillion new revenues can it pass the house? >>
we don't know what will happen in this hour, in this meeting so we could still go over the fiscal cliff. the second poll, the best way or fix this budget problem, 57%. mostly spending cuts. raise my taxes. >> dana: this is the problem that the democrats are starting to realize, they let this go on too long. you never under estimate the obama administration tendency to overplay their hand. yes, they had a good hand, but they do too much. then the public catches up with what is going on...
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as david pointed out, the fiscal cliff is more than the massive tax increases and the spending cuts. it's also about a number of other things including an extended unemployment benefits and the dock fix and so -- doc fix and so forth. there's a number of things that really need to be addressed, but as i think, this discussion is not about the fiscal cliff per se because if congress and president come together quickly and pass a bill very easy that puts off of the fiscal cliff, either in large period of time or indefinitely. it really is about making a down payment as both rudy and david have said on closing deficits in the future, but i would say it's also really about the president's campaign, not just in the past election, but the first -- his first election to hike taxes on the successful. that's really what this boils down to. i think we absolutely have to see some real leadership, though, on the more longer term budget unsustainable issues. what we don't need is campaigning. what we don't need is negotiating in the political theater. when we see that stop, then, perhaps, we'll k
as david pointed out, the fiscal cliff is more than the massive tax increases and the spending cuts. it's also about a number of other things including an extended unemployment benefits and the dock fix and so -- doc fix and so forth. there's a number of things that really need to be addressed, but as i think, this discussion is not about the fiscal cliff per se because if congress and president come together quickly and pass a bill very easy that puts off of the fiscal cliff, either in large...
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cliff on consumers. jane wells is deking deeper into the consumer story, joining us now from a mall in california. my, how glittery that swelter is, jane. >> you nope what it's like? did you ever see "total recall," where the guy opens up his coat and he's hosting another being in his gut. >> exactly like that. >> you can't really tell, it's lit up. but back to the consumer which is not buying this. walmart's ceo said 15% of his core customers say all this debate over the deficit is inpacts their shopping and, in fact, concerns over the fiscal cliff, awareness of it has skyrocketed since the election. if you remember, last month, when we asked around, hardly anybody even knew what the fiscal cliff was. listen. >> do you know what the fiscal cliff is? >> good question. don't have a good answer for that. >> fiscal clip? >> cliff. >> oh. >> what is the fiscal cliff? >> i have no idea. >> all right, one month later, nearly everyone knows what it is. nearly. >> are you concerned about this so-called fiscal cl
cliff on consumers. jane wells is deking deeper into the consumer story, joining us now from a mall in california. my, how glittery that swelter is, jane. >> you nope what it's like? did you ever see "total recall," where the guy opens up his coat and he's hosting another being in his gut. >> exactly like that. >> you can't really tell, it's lit up. but back to the consumer which is not buying this. walmart's ceo said 15% of his core customers say all this debate...
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. >> the good news is they are not focused on the fiscal cliff the way businesses are, but at some point everything comes home to roost. sentiment is up, spending is up, but are we spending our way into oblivion and then we're going to find out oops? >> i doubt it. >> no, okay. >> i think the fundamentals, the fundamentals for consumer spending is pretty good. gasoline problems is down. jobs growth good enough to keep everything going. let's not forget waves growth which hasn't been playing along. >> hasn't been in a while. >> we'll see you season. gentleman, thank you very much. is it time to raise the eligible age for medicare, after all, a lot of people are living longer than when the program first began in 1966. represent jan schakowsky says no way. she's here next. >>> and john mcafee talks about playing the crazy card but will the company find some criminals stealing millions from u.s. institutions. alpha one capital's dan niles with his top picks for 2013. he saw facebook's mess coming miles away and shorted it at 42, and wait until you hear what he's buying right now. stay with u
. >> the good news is they are not focused on the fiscal cliff the way businesses are, but at some point everything comes home to roost. sentiment is up, spending is up, but are we spending our way into oblivion and then we're going to find out oops? >> i doubt it. >> no, okay. >> i think the fundamentals, the fundamentals for consumer spending is pretty good. gasoline problems is down. jobs growth good enough to keep everything going. let's not forget waves growth which...
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did he want to have this protracted battle that would take attention away from the fiscal cliff debate, the economic debate where he's clobbering the republicans and put it in some other area where he's not necessarily as strong? now, in terms of the enemies, i think what it was is certainly you have people with the knifes out like john mccain and lindsey graham but just as tellingly, you didn't have a lot of democrats ready to go to the mattresses for her. so, yes, they could have gotten her through, but it's not a fight a lot of the democrats were relishing having. i think it had very little to do with benghazi and i think as joy pointed out, it had a lot to do with pique, and john mccain's pique at the way susan rice treated him during the 2008 campaign. >> dana, this critique of ambassador rice having sharp elbows, i have heard that, frankly, as a sexist slur by men very often who make that kind of critique because they don't like the fact that a woman has to work ten times as hard to get into a position of seniority. you know, so all this talk of her having sharp elbows, did she r
did he want to have this protracted battle that would take attention away from the fiscal cliff debate, the economic debate where he's clobbering the republicans and put it in some other area where he's not necessarily as strong? now, in terms of the enemies, i think what it was is certainly you have people with the knifes out like john mccain and lindsey graham but just as tellingly, you didn't have a lot of democrats ready to go to the mattresses for her. so, yes, they could have gotten her...
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. >>> the blame game continues with the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. democrats and republicans are at a standstill over how to stop a flurry of year end tax increases and spending cuts. cbs reporter tara mergener explains how capitol hill is preparing for the worst-case scenario. >> washington, d.c., december 13, 2012. >> reporter: cbs news has learned lawmakers are receiving orders today to cut their own budgets 11%. it's congress' first encounter with the consequences of going over the "fiscal cliff." without a compromise, across- the-board spending cuts will kick in and taxes for all americans will go up on january 1. with little progress being reported, frustration is mounting on capitol hill. >> if we don't act, the economy will go over the cliff. not just our budget process. the economy will go over the cliff. >> reporter: the sticking points remain the same. the president wants higher taxes for the wealthiest americans. republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts. >> republicans want to solve this problem by getting the spending line down.
. >>> the blame game continues with the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. democrats and republicans are at a standstill over how to stop a flurry of year end tax increases and spending cuts. cbs reporter tara mergener explains how capitol hill is preparing for the worst-case scenario. >> washington, d.c., december 13, 2012. >> reporter: cbs news has learned lawmakers are receiving orders today to cut their own budgets 11%. it's congress' first encounter with the...
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fiscal cliff debate? woyou far? >> well, bill, we aren't seeing any meaningful spending cuts. the president has offered zero. >> if they could come up with meaningful spending cuts, would you be willing to offset that on the tax increase on the top 2% that the president is demanding. >> bill, let me tell you, if we tax the top 2% 100% of their income it would only fund the government for 91 days. that's not the solution. we've got to stop the spending, and we've got to make some wholesale cuts. i'm in favor of getting rid of the department of education totally. let's get rid of the e.p.a. and the department of energy and the department of commerce and a lot of these -- >> are you considering what the implications on education spending and education budgets will be? are you thinking about students? >> no, absolutely i'm thinking about students. >> really? >> let's find bridges to spend those powers back to the states and the people as the constitution calls it for it to be. let's leave the power in the han
fiscal cliff debate? woyou far? >> well, bill, we aren't seeing any meaningful spending cuts. the president has offered zero. >> if they could come up with meaningful spending cuts, would you be willing to offset that on the tax increase on the top 2% that the president is demanding. >> bill, let me tell you, if we tax the top 2% 100% of their income it would only fund the government for 91 days. that's not the solution. we've got to stop the spending, and we've got to make...
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was the issue preventing the deal on the fiscal cliff negotiations. right now, dow down 76 points. fox news reports former republican senator hagel emerged at the leading con tender to be president obama's pick to be secretary of defense, according to several democrats briefed on the process. the same sources say senator john kerry is talked up within the administration as a more likely nominee for secretary of state over susan rice, the current u.s. ambassador not united nations. a new study suggests this christmas travel season could be the busiest in six years. aaa predicts more than 93 million americans hitting the highways over the holidays, just 400,000 people shy of the record set in 2006. we continue our count down to the closing bell with the woman who likes her politics the same hi way likes her martinis, shaken, not stirred. liz: no, a mojito, light on the rum, adam. get it right. >> you look like a vodka woman to me, i don't know. liz: never. can't deal with that. a rough year for jcpenney, but things changing. the stock popped, but now th
was the issue preventing the deal on the fiscal cliff negotiations. right now, dow down 76 points. fox news reports former republican senator hagel emerged at the leading con tender to be president obama's pick to be secretary of defense, according to several democrats briefed on the process. the same sources say senator john kerry is talked up within the administration as a more likely nominee for secretary of state over susan rice, the current u.s. ambassador not united nations. a new study...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner set to meet today to discuss the fiscal cliff as the two sides have been struggling, to say the least, to reach a deal. speaker boehner says president obama wants tax increases but is resistant to spending cuts. the president is optimistic about a deal but acknowledges it's a work in progress. in public opinion, a poll from the pew research center 55% say the president is making a serious effort to reach a agreement. 32% of republican leaders. mike, we're hearing frustration from republicans but the breaking news, 5:00 p.m. east coast time these two getting together again. >> this is critical a 5:00 meeting at the white house between the president and speaker, the two key figures in trying to hammer out a deal. the republicans were trying to make the point spending is the nature of the government's problem, not tax revenue. they prepared a chart showing spending is expected to increase from now to 2041 while tax revenue is expected to hold consistent. so at one point today the speaker of the house sounded like he was kind of tired of answer
president obama and house speaker john boehner set to meet today to discuss the fiscal cliff as the two sides have been struggling, to say the least, to reach a deal. speaker boehner says president obama wants tax increases but is resistant to spending cuts. the president is optimistic about a deal but acknowledges it's a work in progress. in public opinion, a poll from the pew research center 55% say the president is making a serious effort to reach a agreement. 32% of republican leaders....
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we are told that $200 a month tax increase on middle class if we go over the fiscal cliff will doom us. well die. whole country will go bankrupt. you understand my facetiousness. but we spend well over $200 a m on things that didn't even exist ten years ago. the smart phones pb apps. cars. why are we spending 200 a m on things that didn't even exist back then. >> you don't feel it the the same way. >> you have to australia to get that for your tax says all can i say. thank you, lauren young. >> thank you. >> and she called it a chastity belt, maybe that's a brand in i don't know. i'm not hip. >> it was back in the medieval times. definite lay brand. >>> speaking of spending, luxury for less is turning into a trend this holiday season. retailers are struggling in flag ship stores but are cleaning up in outlets, right, courtney? you've been tracking this trend and you are in an outlet in new jersey as well? >> that's right, i am, mandy. it seems the consumers are finding value in the off price luxury. especially outlet centers like this one here and it is surprising a number of analyst a
we are told that $200 a month tax increase on middle class if we go over the fiscal cliff will doom us. well die. whole country will go bankrupt. you understand my facetiousness. but we spend well over $200 a m on things that didn't even exist ten years ago. the smart phones pb apps. cars. why are we spending 200 a m on things that didn't even exist back then. >> you don't feel it the the same way. >> you have to australia to get that for your tax says all can i say. thank you,...
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. >> it is that time again, time to peer over the fiscal cliff of taxes and punishing spending cuts. no real progress to speak of in an effort to get a deal done. scheduled to kick in in 19 days now. as we mentioned, john boehner said the president is not serious. they are demanded by republicans and we did notice this. speaker boehner did not reject a vote for the first of the year to prevent the increase on incomes under $250,000 a year. president obama with the brought support of democrats and the public wants to keep them the same and raise rates on the top 2%, the wealthiest americans. he will talk about spending cuts. nice to have you on. >> great to be with you. >> one of your colleagues, they said this is outgoing with the republican of south carolina. he sounds as though he is throwing in the towel. he said president obama will get his wish. higher tax rates for the wealthy. congressman brown, will the president get his wish? >> i think the president wants higher tax rates for everybody. even the lowest paid employees in this country is pushing towards. the problem is not th
. >> it is that time again, time to peer over the fiscal cliff of taxes and punishing spending cuts. no real progress to speak of in an effort to get a deal done. scheduled to kick in in 19 days now. as we mentioned, john boehner said the president is not serious. they are demanded by republicans and we did notice this. speaker boehner did not reject a vote for the first of the year to prevent the increase on incomes under $250,000 a year. president obama with the brought support of...
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lori: house speaker john boehner today trying to shift the fiscal cliff debate back to, spending. here is what he said earlier today. >> here we are, at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue, spending! now you go back, i want to talk about polling, most americans would agree that spending is a much bigger problem than raising taxes. they want us to deal with this, in a responsible way. lori: just shortly after that fox news's ed henry trying to get a comment from the president on the fiscal cliff negotiations about the issue that john boehner just raced about spending cuts or lack thereof. listen to this. >> how are you doing, sir? >> what do you say, i'd? >> great. how do you feel about a deal? optimistic? >> still work in progress. >> speaker boehner says he is waiting to hear more from you, sir? >> merry christmas. lori: what a permagrin. lou dobbs dobbs here with the take. >> good try, ed. he will not give up anything to ed henry he wouldn't first to john boehner. i think john boehner did himself a lot of
lori: house speaker john boehner today trying to shift the fiscal cliff debate back to, spending. here is what he said earlier today. >> here we are, at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue, spending! now you go back, i want to talk about polling, most americans would agree that spending is a much bigger problem than raising taxes. they want us to deal with this, in a responsible way. lori: just shortly after that...
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the fiscal cliff is about the miasma of spending that we've had under barack obama, $6 billion added to the debt in one term. now we've got a regulatory cliff that is what we're doing with all that new spending which a highly intrusive government that wants to regulate every aspect of our lives. so we've got the epa that is doing this when it comes to water. when it comes to air, we've got the cleanest air in 30 yearsing according to the epa. they have got six new regulations in the coming year that are going to cost -- 1 38 billion in compliance costs to business, and billions more in higher energy bills. you've got the transportation department which is planning a whole host of new regulations that are going to raise the cost of cars and trucks. they want to force everybody to have a rear-facing camera inside their dashboard. so an american family that's struggling to make ends meet has to buy a rear-facing camera because the federal government says so. you've got all the regulations coming under obamacare and all the rest. we are going -- the fiscal cliff is a slow decline compare
the fiscal cliff is about the miasma of spending that we've had under barack obama, $6 billion added to the debt in one term. now we've got a regulatory cliff that is what we're doing with all that new spending which a highly intrusive government that wants to regulate every aspect of our lives. so we've got the epa that is doing this when it comes to water. when it comes to air, we've got the cleanest air in 30 yearsing according to the epa. they have got six new regulations in the coming year...
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especially as the fiscal cliff gets closer. jane wells is talking to shoppers in canoga park, california for us. hi, jane. >> hey, sue. it is ugly sweater day. this one lights up. by the way, folks want you to know i did not buy this here. they would never sell such a monstrosity. but does it make you want to jump off the fiscal cliff? do consumers even know what the fiscal cliff is? wul mart says before the election about 25% of its core customers did. now 75% do. is it making any impact? >> 50% of our core customers are saying that all of this debate and discussion will effect their christmas spending this year. >> now nearly everyone we spoke to knows about the fiscal cliff but not everyone thinks about it. >> are you concerned about the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> no, i'm not, actually. i think they will fix fiscal cliff and i'm a positive person. >> i don't know how much it really impacts us but it impact the economy so i think we have had a really stressful year with business and health, so we haven't put
especially as the fiscal cliff gets closer. jane wells is talking to shoppers in canoga park, california for us. hi, jane. >> hey, sue. it is ugly sweater day. this one lights up. by the way, folks want you to know i did not buy this here. they would never sell such a monstrosity. but does it make you want to jump off the fiscal cliff? do consumers even know what the fiscal cliff is? wul mart says before the election about 25% of its core customers did. now 75% do. is it making any...
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and walked our economy up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts our jobs and the country in danger. it jeopardize is a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and revenue problem. as you can see, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problems. the election was not a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer, and is now up to the white house to show us how they are going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. the president will step up and show us he is willing to make the cuts that are needed, we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he wants to keep chasing higher spending with higher taxes,
and walked our economy up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts our jobs and the country in danger. it jeopardize is a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and revenue problem. as you can see, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problems. the election was not a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses....
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cliff. >>> meantime, there are just 12 shopping days left until christmas. if you include today. and big questions remain over just how much consumers will spend this year. nowhere is that being watched closer than at high-end brands like estee lauder with licensing agreements with everyone from coach to coors. john lauder is on with us. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> you have as good a read as anybody on the high-end consumer and what they're doing now. what can you tell us? >> well, right now we see the high-end consumer is continuing to spend. she has a great deal of confidence in north america, not perhaps as aggressive as we'd like to see her, but she's doing pretty well. we're seeing the high-end consumer in asia continues to be strong. there's been a lot of noise about the demand in china. the reality of what we're seeing is high-end demand in shanghai, beijing and other very developed cities is not as strong as it used to be, but it still continues to be very strong. but the demand in tier two and three cities continues to be ex
cliff. >>> meantime, there are just 12 shopping days left until christmas. if you include today. and big questions remain over just how much consumers will spend this year. nowhere is that being watched closer than at high-end brands like estee lauder with licensing agreements with everyone from coach to coors. john lauder is on with us. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> you have as good a read as anybody on the high-end consumer and what they're doing...
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as we debate various strategies for avoiding the fiscal cliff, it's important for us to remember that our actions, or inactions, will have real-world consequences for millions of americans. many folks near washington seem too casual about the possibility of a massive tax hike and what that would do to our economy. indeed, some of my democratic colleagues apparently think they could quickly undo all of the tax increases that would fall on middle-class workers. in reality, it would not be that simple. just ask any small business owner trying to meet payroll and plan for the future. everyone knows, as i said to start with, that we are experiencing the weakest economic recovery since world war ii and the longest period of high unemployment since the great depression. if you ask me, this is the worst possible moment for a huge tax hike, something the president himself acknowledged when he extended -- agreed to extend the so-called bush tax cuts in 2010, when the economy was growing slower than it is today. and too many of my colleagues across the aisle seem to be comfortable with threateni
as we debate various strategies for avoiding the fiscal cliff, it's important for us to remember that our actions, or inactions, will have real-world consequences for millions of americans. many folks near washington seem too casual about the possibility of a massive tax hike and what that would do to our economy. indeed, some of my democratic colleagues apparently think they could quickly undo all of the tax increases that would fall on middle-class workers. in reality, it would not be that...
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is there any solution to not going over the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we heard a lot of the same today from leaders in both parties. from the speaker coming out and saying the president's got to put more spending cuts on the table and from the democratic leaders say that the republicans just have to give on agreeing to raise tax rates for the wealthy. no. guess what? we heard from dthem that the house speaker is going home this weekend. he's not going to be here. they'll hopefully talk to the phone, but no face-to-face meetings. >> dana you talked to a couple of guys that spent careers in congress making deals, and they talk about you how they did it. tell us a little bit about that, the insights here. >> reporter: a really fascinating conversation with a former republican leader, senate let the record trent lott and the former democratic leader tom dashle on opposite sides of the table for almost ten years i covered them for a large part of that. i asked about, you know, kind of what was different back then versus now. specifically since t
is there any solution to not going over the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we heard a lot of the same today from leaders in both parties. from the speaker coming out and saying the president's got to put more spending cuts on the table and from the democratic leaders say that the republicans just have to give on agreeing to raise tax rates for the wealthy. no. guess what? we heard from dthem that the house speaker is going home this weekend. he's not going to be here. they'll hopefully talk...
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. ♪ connell: the speaker of the house john boehner is about to update us on the fiscal cliff talks. pushing the president to come up with some spending cuts. we will have it live as soon as it starts. before that, let's make a little money. charles payne is here. tell us your stock today. charles: they make great cars. the demand is absolutely on fire. the liquefying the commodities, natural gas, i think there will be a lot of money there. as you are worried about this fiscal cliff stuff, this is one of the companies that has done very well in a recessionary. they have managed extraordinarily well. connell: i mentioned a moment ago. again, we are waiting for speaker john boehner. i mentioned a moment ago that the speakership and job is on the line. he will come out, rich erickson was telling us, the missing ingredient is the spending cuts. the president has not been serious. where do you think we are in all of this? charles: this whole thing came about because of the debt ceiling compromise. now it feels like that entire thing has been flip-flopped. connell: i guess you would not ha
. ♪ connell: the speaker of the house john boehner is about to update us on the fiscal cliff talks. pushing the president to come up with some spending cuts. we will have it live as soon as it starts. before that, let's make a little money. charles payne is here. tell us your stock today. charles: they make great cars. the demand is absolutely on fire. the liquefying the commodities, natural gas, i think there will be a lot of money there. as you are worried about this fiscal cliff stuff,...
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walk any agreement and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts jobs in our country in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the election wasn't a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it's now up to the white house to show us how they'll cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for week. if the president will step up and show us he's willing to make the spending cuts that are needed, i think we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he wants to ke
walk any agreement and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts jobs in our country in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago,...
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to get the fiscal cliff deal done. as we take a look, live look, what will be his news conference, we do see a chart, mike. that can always get a little scary. what is the chart for and what are they going to explain? tell us a little bit about the democrat side because we expect to hear from the democrats today. what is their frustration with the process. >> reporter: nancy pelosi, the democratic leader in the house talked to reporters a few moments ago she noted the clock is really ticking. if you want to get a deal it needs to be hammered out in the next day or some there is great anxiety with the christmas holiday coming up. with the procedural things you need to do to get legislation done. so the pressure is really on. pelosi talked a little bit what it was like when she was speaker and she had a deal with war funding with many is of her members. check this out. >> it's tough. but you have to do it. so is the point you don't want to put your members on spot figure it out. we did. figure it out. and than, then go f
to get the fiscal cliff deal done. as we take a look, live look, what will be his news conference, we do see a chart, mike. that can always get a little scary. what is the chart for and what are they going to explain? tell us a little bit about the democrat side because we expect to hear from the democrats today. what is their frustration with the process. >> reporter: nancy pelosi, the democratic leader in the house talked to reporters a few moments ago she noted the clock is really...
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any agreement, and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that, puts jobs in our country, in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important, as long as real cuts in spending, if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the election wasn't a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together, to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it's now up to the white house to show us how they're going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. if the president will step up and show us he's willing to make the spending cuts that are needs, i think we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he w
any agreement, and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that, puts jobs in our country, in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important, as long as real cuts in spending, if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the...
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cliff and its impact on taxes and spending and some other issues. and today we're focusing on the issue of medicare, and our guest is mary agnus carey, senior health care correspondent for the kaiser health care news. mary agnus, just as a reminder for our viewers, how is medicare funded? guest: well, medicare has part a is funded by payroll taxes, gets taken out of their checks. part b and d. part b is your outpatient service and part d is prescription drugs and it's funded by yn revenue. host: is it self-sustaining? does it pay for itself? guest: in the sense general revenues pays for it, its needs are met and then the medicare trustees says the program is funded through 2024 in part because of the reductions in the health care law to providers and here we're talking about the part a trust fund. as we know 50 million people rely on this program. it was created in 1965. it benefits individuals over the age of 65 and disabled individuals under that age so a lot of people depend on it. it's expected to hit 80 million by 2030. host: so what's the curr
cliff and its impact on taxes and spending and some other issues. and today we're focusing on the issue of medicare, and our guest is mary agnus carey, senior health care correspondent for the kaiser health care news. mary agnus, just as a reminder for our viewers, how is medicare funded? guest: well, medicare has part a is funded by payroll taxes, gets taken out of their checks. part b and d. part b is your outpatient service and part d is prescription drugs and it's funded by yn revenue....
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. >> reporter: one part of the fiscal cliff drama is across-the-board government spending cuts. today every member of the house received a letter ordering them to impose 11% across the board cuts to their own budget. john boehner will meet with reporters in a couple of hours and president obama will do some interviews with stations across the country. >> also in washington is republican senator jim demint of south carolina. senator, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> senator, what do you think is going to happen? >> i wish i knew. most of us here are not in the loop of what they're discussing. but i do know this, that this government doesn't need more money, this country needs less government. to take more money out of the real economy and give it to politicians and bureaucrats, no matter who you take it from, is not going to help the middle class or anyone else. the president's proposal clearly is not a plan, it's not a solution. it will fund the government for a few days. we all realize it's a political trophy, it's not a solution. but the president has been campaignin
. >> reporter: one part of the fiscal cliff drama is across-the-board government spending cuts. today every member of the house received a letter ordering them to impose 11% across the board cuts to their own budget. john boehner will meet with reporters in a couple of hours and president obama will do some interviews with stations across the country. >> also in washington is republican senator jim demint of south carolina. senator, good morning. >> good morning, charlie....
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that's the word from house speaker john boehner as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, tax increases and spending cuts that take effect at year's end. few signs of compromise are an apparent meeting. this may extend through the holidays. also in jeopardy, some $60 billion in hurricane sandy recovery aid. >>> speaking of money for hurricane victims, rock 'n' roll royalty sang for in new york last night. bruce springsteen, bon jovi, kicking off the show with bruce's classic "born to run." $35 billion from ticket sales. paul mccartney filled in for kurt cobain with remembers of nirvana, as they rocked on through the wee hours. it just drew to a close. >>> we have a passing to note this morning. joe allbritain, who was one of washington's influential man has died at the age of 87. allbritton ran eight tv stations, including our favorite station, wjla, whose call letters bare his initials. >>> the last time most of us saw the man they called blade runner was at the london olympics. oscar pistorius was on the track. his revolutionary prosthetic legs. racing an arabian horse. and
that's the word from house speaker john boehner as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, tax increases and spending cuts that take effect at year's end. few signs of compromise are an apparent meeting. this may extend through the holidays. also in jeopardy, some $60 billion in hurricane sandy recovery aid. >>> speaking of money for hurricane victims, rock 'n' roll royalty sang for in new york last night. bruce springsteen, bon jovi, kicking off the show with bruce's classic...
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cliff. he says president obama refusal to control spending is why talks keep failing. house minority leaves that leader nancy pelosi is also speaking out today on the issue. should criticize republican house leaders for sending lawmakers home today instead of staying in washington to work on an agreement. wide-ranging tax increases and spending cuts will take effect last next month at a solution is not reached. >> home repossessions rose to nine multi november even as the number of homes started on the path to foreclosure declined and the lowest level in six years. reality track's said banks completed foreclosure on over 59,000 homes last month. as a and 11% increase from october and up 5% from november last year. the number of homes entering the foreclosure process process sank to about 77,500. that's the lowest number foreclosures since december 2006. >> rob black will be talking about winners and losers on wall street. the approach the bay bridge has been an easy commute with lots of suns
cliff. he says president obama refusal to control spending is why talks keep failing. house minority leaves that leader nancy pelosi is also speaking out today on the issue. should criticize republican house leaders for sending lawmakers home today instead of staying in washington to work on an agreement. wide-ranging tax increases and spending cuts will take effect last next month at a solution is not reached. >> home repossessions rose to nine multi november even as the number of homes...
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the president who visited the area a short time ago made the request for the emergency spending bill last week. the proposal comes at a time when lawmakers are of course already battling -- doing battle over the fiscal cliff. >>> the red cross is under fire for the amount of money it raised verses the amount of money it spent on sandy relief. they pulled in $188 million in donations according to a yahoo report, 78 million remains unspent. a spokeswoman said they will release a spending plan soon. >> let's go to sal. there is a bad crash on the peninsula. what happened? >> it's a crash on southbound 101, there is a huge back up now. right there, just on the border of san carlos and redwood city on southbound 101. the best thing is to use 280 instead. this crash at one point had been blocking all the lanes and a sig alert has been issued at holly street. serious injury crash. northbound marble affected but southbound is back up into san mateo as you head south. the best thing is to use 280 instead. let's go to other pictures, bay bridge backed up for a 20 minute delay and this morning
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the fiscal cliff is all about tax hikes. it is not about the spending cuts. then's a problem because we have sluggish growth and we have a spending problem and 16 trillion in debt and raising those taxes aren't going to fix our problems. i've never heard of taxing our way into prosperity. and so i don't understand why the discussion is centering so much around the hikes and not around cutting the spending, which is what we need to do. stuart: the president actually wants 50 billion in extra spending in the -- charles: he also wants the power to raise the debt willy-nilly whenever he wants. the g.o.p. lost that. they should have drawn that line in the sand a long time ago. it's always been about revenues. boehner's already given in on that. it's just how do we come to that numb number? here's the thing, the president isn't going to listen to anything outside of the oval office. what they are telling him, you have a mandate, you have a decisive victory, pound, pound, pound. stuart: i think he will have a tax increase on the rich, promise of spending cuts -- cha
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but the big concern going forward is the fiscal cliff. walmart ceo said their shoppers are actually more and more aware of the cliff and some say it's going to effect their hole cida spending. if somebody on capitol hill would listen, wouldn't we all be sitting pretty. >> yes, we would. >>> drew brees, roger goodell, may be smiling here, but they're not happy with each other. brees wants an apology. goodell's not giving it. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ together for your future. sfx: horn. ding. ding. how long have i had my car insurance? i don't know. eight, ten years. i couldn't tell ya' but things were a lot less expensive back then. if you're
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cuts as part of a package to avert the fiscal cliff. republicans are on weak ground in this debate. president obama's more popular. the democrats are more popular than the republicans. the president's proposal to raise taxes on people over $250,000 is very popular with the american public. 59% in our poll say they're for it. 76% say it would be an acceptable outcome. the one thing that republicans have going for them in the debate is the public likes the idea of spending cuts. so while the president puts public pressure on republicans, he's trying to respond in kind and say president obama has not detailed the spending cuts he wants. of course, republicans have not detailed the spending cuts either because the place you get real money, melissa, is in the entitlement programs of medicare and social security, and those are very popular. so nobody really wants to lay out too many specifics. republicans have laid out some, saying they would raise the eligibility age for medicare from 65 to 67. saying that they would change the inflation adj
cuts as part of a package to avert the fiscal cliff. republicans are on weak ground in this debate. president obama's more popular. the democrats are more popular than the republicans. the president's proposal to raise taxes on people over $250,000 is very popular with the american public. 59% in our poll say they're for it. 76% say it would be an acceptable outcome. the one thing that republicans have going for them in the debate is the public likes the idea of spending cuts. so while the...
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i would propose that the fiscal cliff is both a challenge and it's an opportunity. it's a challenge to get the federal government's runaway spending under control. but it's also an opportunity for us to make real entitlement reforms and to put in place a structure for comprehensive tax reform next year that will have enormous benefits for our economy. i hope, mr. president, that our president, the president of the united states will soon join the discussion that many of us have been having about comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. presidential leadership on both of these critical issues is long, long overdue, and it is essential, mr. president. you cannot do big things in this country. you can't do entitlement reform, you can't do tax reform absent presidential leadership. president obama has a unique opportunity in his second term to do some things that are desperately needed for this country and to put our country on a path toward fiscal solvency, a trajectory that will ensure a brighter, better, more pros puss future for future generations of americans. bu
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they seem less and less serious getting a plan that would avert the fiscal cliff. why i think you heard a number of them say publicly they're willing to go over the cliff to get higher taxes. but i think what is really interesting about your survey, bill, americans are pretty discerning. by a 53-36 margin they believe if the president gets higher taxes he will use it for more government spending, not to reduce the deficit. which is why a large majority i believe understand spending and spending cuts has it be part of the solution to this problem. bill: to your point, it showed a greater majority of people we polled said if you give washington more morn any they will spend it not pay down the deficit. getting back to what speaker boehner says, $1.4 trillion in revenue can't pass the house or senate right now. democrats control the senate. is that true? >> possible with a democratic majority in the senate they might get something like that through. there are a lot of democrats in the united states senate will have major heartburn over level of tax increases talking a
they seem less and less serious getting a plan that would avert the fiscal cliff. why i think you heard a number of them say publicly they're willing to go over the cliff to get higher taxes. but i think what is really interesting about your survey, bill, americans are pretty discerning. by a 53-36 margin they believe if the president gets higher taxes he will use it for more government spending, not to reduce the deficit. which is why a large majority i believe understand spending and spending...
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when you think about fiscal cliff, the bush tax cuts have collapsed, sequestration cuts spending, and then there's a trillion dollar tax increase that obama has over the next decade to pay for obamacare. interestingly, he decided to delay those taxes until after he was reelected. but they start kicking in in january. very painful and hit the middle class hard. the reason not to raise taxes is to have a spending problem. we spent too much money. raising taxes is not part of spending less. it's not part of a compromise or anything. it is what politicians do instead of. reforming of - instead of reforming government. europeans eventually put in energy taxes and that is what obama is doing. he spent his five trillion dollars in the first term and wants to take us a trillion dollars more in debt over the next decade. there's no way to raise taxes to pay for that. we have to rein in spending. raising taxes is what politicians do when they don't have the courage to reform government. host: you can read this new press release on the internet. canada and middle-class families face high medical
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fed that the fiscal cliff is already hurting household confidence and business spending. >>> meantime security firm mcafee releasing a report about plans for a massive cyber attack on 30 u.s. banks. cyber criminals banding together around the world for project blitz creek targeting millions of dollars in consumers' bank accounts. they plan to use malware dying dormant in the u.s. financial system. here are a few of the banks at risk. citibank, wachovia, wells fargo, also e-trade and paypal also targeted. it could happen as early as the spring. no response from the banks we've contacted or the government, which monitors cyber warfare, cyber crime. >> so we have till spring to work it out? >> well, the fdic ensures your deposits up to $250,000. >>> republicans in the house have been warned santa claus might find them at the capitol for christmas if they can't get a deal on the fiscal cliff done before then. >> with coal. >> with coal all around, because they can't get a deal done on the fiscal cliff. we want to talk to congressman james langford, a republican from the state of oklahoma.
fed that the fiscal cliff is already hurting household confidence and business spending. >>> meantime security firm mcafee releasing a report about plans for a massive cyber attack on 30 u.s. banks. cyber criminals banding together around the world for project blitz creek targeting millions of dollars in consumers' bank accounts. they plan to use malware dying dormant in the u.s. financial system. here are a few of the banks at risk. citibank, wachovia, wells fargo, also e-trade and...
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. >>> and in washington, no progress on talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner says serious differences remain between him and president obama, over raising taxes and cutting spending. 14 and a fascinating historical note. ahead of mr. obama's second public inauguration, by the time it's over on january 21st, the president will have tied fdr because he'll have been sworn in four times. mr. obama will take a private oath on sunday, january 20th, as required by the constitution. the very next day, he will take it publicly. the president also took two oaths in 2009, after a flub by chief justice john roberts. >> a lot of swearing. >> yes. >> two terms, four swearing. not four terms. >>> and south korea says the satellite north korea launched is orbiting the earth normally. but whether it's functioning properly, that's another question. yesterday's launch has drawn international condemnation. the u.s. and its allies are pushing for stronger sanctions. but china, north korea's biggest supporter says, a moderation is needed to avoid further
. >>> and in washington, no progress on talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner says serious differences remain between him and president obama, over raising taxes and cutting spending. 14 and a fascinating historical note. ahead of mr. obama's second public inauguration, by the time it's over on january 21st, the president will have tied fdr because he'll have been sworn in four times. mr. obama will take a private oath on sunday, january 20th, as required by the...
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we're sure he's going to be heavy in meetings on the fiscal cliff. and on changes in his cabinet. the only two things on his public schedule is that he will get the daily briefing today with the vice president at 9:45 at the white house. and then this evening at 7:40 p.m. at the white house president will be hosting a hanukkah reception. he's been having a lot of christmas parties. the white house tonight is the hanukkah reception. i should know third or fourth night of hanukkah. at any rate, we're into hanukkah here. president obama marking that this evening at the white house. jay carney will hold his regular press briefing at 1:00 today. and i'll be there representing all of you. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: hey, good morning everybody! it is thursday, december 13. this is the "full court press." welcome to the program here on current tv coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours from our studio on capitol hill in washington, d.c. our nation's capital. with everything else going on here today president obama at the r
we're sure he's going to be heavy in meetings on the fiscal cliff. and on changes in his cabinet. the only two things on his public schedule is that he will get the daily briefing today with the vice president at 9:45 at the white house. and then this evening at 7:40 p.m. at the white house president will be hosting a hanukkah reception. he's been having a lot of christmas parties. the white house tonight is the hanukkah reception. i should know third or fourth night of hanukkah. at any rate,...
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than they would have otherwise because of the fiscal cliff. this uncertainty, this overhang, was having a tremendous impact. that will also put pressure on the white house. the last thing you need is people underspending going into the holidays. >> their customers are those that will be primarily affected by the tax increase, a $2,000 average increase. i would imagine the majority of walmart customers would feel that immediately. >> working middle class. >> they are. steve rattner, walmart really focuses on what politicians call walmart moms. and they and other retailers are seeing in all of their internal data that their shoppers, their consumers, are very nervous. consumer confidence drives what happens between now and the end of the year. and this will have a major impact on the economy, as you showed us in your charts last time, if the white house and congress fail to make a deal. >> yeah, and you're seeing it elsewhere as well. i think business is very clearly not hiring as many people, holding back on investment. ben bernanke said yester
than they would have otherwise because of the fiscal cliff. this uncertainty, this overhang, was having a tremendous impact. that will also put pressure on the white house. the last thing you need is people underspending going into the holidays. >> their customers are those that will be primarily affected by the tax increase, a $2,000 average increase. i would imagine the majority of walmart customers would feel that immediately. >> working middle class. >> they are. steve...
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. >> fiscal cliff, of course, is a complete madeup deadline. >> discretionary spending is 1 trillion, 280 billion. we're 18 billion short of having nothing for the entire government. >> what do you think the best possible outcome could be? >> something like simpson-bowles, and work off that. >> when a deal is announced, if the left and the right aren't angry, there's not a real deal. >> we're back on "squawk." and we've got an update on a very interesting/crazy story. john mcafee, holed up in a miami hotel after his deportation from guatemala. we've been bringing you different aspects of this throughout the past couple of weeks. the anti-virus software founder has been evading authorities in belize who want to question him in connection with the death of a neighbor who was shot, if you remember. mcafee said he did not kill the neighbor. fear for his life if he turned himself in to authorities in belize, he was tweeting and blogging about all this as it was going on. mcafee announced on his website last evening that he arrived in miami's south beach neighborhood. american airlines said
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the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> gretchen: so with both sides still hung up over tax hikes and spending cuts, can they come it a consensus in time to avert going off the cliff? let's ask texas congressman jeb hensarling who joins me live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> gretchen: doing just fine, thank you so much. it's interesting because it appears from john boehner that the president isn't budging on the spending cuts. yet i want to point you in the direction of a new fox news poll that came out this morning that said that if there are tax increases, should the president also budge on spending cuts? you want to know how many people said yes? 89%. your thoughts. >> well, i'm gratified by that because the truth is america is facing a debt crisis. under president obama, we've accumulated more debt in four years than in the previous 200. we're borrowing roughly 40 cents on the dollar, much of it from the chinese. sending the bill
the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> gretchen: so with both sides still hung up over tax hikes and spending cuts, can they come it a consensus in time to avert going off the cliff? let's ask texas congressman jeb hensarling who joins me live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> gretchen: doing just fine, thank you so much. it's...
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those are issues that we should address, but not part of the fiscal cliff. >> eliot: there would an way to thread the needle with the moderate republicans and without deferring the republicans because of this majority of the majority rule. you know, time is up, unfortunately. we rarely go to bon jovi for political wisdom, but linguistics is what politics is all about. he said we should not be using the phrase "entitlements" but "empowerment." should we strike the word entitlements. >> it's not an entitlement because people have prayed
those are issues that we should address, but not part of the fiscal cliff. >> eliot: there would an way to thread the needle with the moderate republicans and without deferring the republicans because of this majority of the majority rule. you know, time is up, unfortunately. we rarely go to bon jovi for political wisdom, but linguistics is what politics is all about. he said we should not be using the phrase "entitlements" but "empowerment." should we strike the word...
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so now with the fiscal cliff looming, the federal reserve is taking matters into their own hands. bernanke announced today that the fed will take unprecedented steps to boost the economy. the fed is currently spending $40 billion a month on mortgage bonds, and now they're willing to take to it the next level by purchasing $45 billion worth of treasury bonds per month. the fed also grid to keep short-term interest rates near zero. they plan to keep interest rates low until the unemployment rate falls to 6.5%, or the inflation rate reaches 2.5%. this is the first time in the fed's history that they have ever made goals for the nation's economic recovery. for more let's turn to william cohan. he is a bloomberg columnist and author of "money and power: how goldman sachs came to rule the world." mr. cohan, good to have you with us tonight. >> great to be here. >> what do you make of this move? bernanke has been out there that congress has to move on something. they didn't. but now in the 11th hour, he makes this move. how big is it? >> it's very big. it's creative. it's unprecedented.
so now with the fiscal cliff looming, the federal reserve is taking matters into their own hands. bernanke announced today that the fed will take unprecedented steps to boost the economy. the fed is currently spending $40 billion a month on mortgage bonds, and now they're willing to take to it the next level by purchasing $45 billion worth of treasury bonds per month. the fed also grid to keep short-term interest rates near zero. they plan to keep interest rates low until the unemployment rate...
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the fiscal cliff, in other words? that's the question people asked when the president threatened to default two years ago and people said would the republicans cause the default? no, only the president can cause the default because only the president decides whether or not to pay interest the president i think has decided to go over the fiscal cliff for a number of reasons because he thinks he can blame other people for it. i hope he doesn't do that. two years ago he extended the business office for all this drama. he may decide to push us over a cliff. >> woodruff: finally, grover norquist, will there be a political price to pay for republicans who vote to raise taxes if that is what it comes down to? >> republicans will take a look, most republicans have committed, not to me, but their constituents, that they won't raise taxes and fight against tax increases. whatever they vote for they have to go to their constituents and say this wasn't a tax increase or let me explain to you what i did. they have to talk to their
the fiscal cliff, in other words? that's the question people asked when the president threatened to default two years ago and people said would the republicans cause the default? no, only the president can cause the default because only the president decides whether or not to pay interest the president i think has decided to go over the fiscal cliff for a number of reasons because he thinks he can blame other people for it. i hope he doesn't do that. two years ago he extended the business...
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they say obviously the end of the year there's a pressure point with the fiscal cliff. they see the next pressure point being february with the debt limit to try to get some serious spending cuts and go after the big three entitlements to get what they want which is to lower deficit through spending cuts. >> let's go to mcconnell. he's not a popular guy anywhere. least of all right here. but let me ask you this. is he stupid? he's not a stupid man. why would he say he would stop the government, have us risk another lowered credit rating in order to cut programs which are essential to so many people like social security and medicare? >> to throw the debt ceiling thing out there might be popular among some republican office holders in the city. i don't think it's really popular beyond that. what he said is a complete misrepresentation because after all raising the debt ceiling is to pay for what congress has already authorized. pay the bills that congress has already incurred. i don't think this is a fight you really want to have with president obama. he -- as a point of
they say obviously the end of the year there's a pressure point with the fiscal cliff. they see the next pressure point being february with the debt limit to try to get some serious spending cuts and go after the big three entitlements to get what they want which is to lower deficit through spending cuts. >> let's go to mcconnell. he's not a popular guy anywhere. least of all right here. but let me ask you this. is he stupid? he's not a stupid man. why would he say he would stop the...
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speaker, we got a bunch of problems in this country and that's whyhe fiscal cliff, this thing is not the result of taxes, it's as a result of spending and too many people not having jobs to be able to pay in not just their taxes but to be able to sustain our economy. and so we have millions of people that are unemployed and drawing unemployment compensation. we are seeing disabilities rise at a rate of 16% every year. one thing which we note that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on tang and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition wi the world. the ne new great ideas. not that will come from this body but from the creativity of the american people. this is what republicans are trying to keep alive in our country. the idea of s
speaker, we got a bunch of problems in this country and that's whyhe fiscal cliff, this thing is not the result of taxes, it's as a result of spending and too many people not having jobs to be able to pay in not just their taxes but to be able to sustain our economy. and so we have millions of people that are unemployed and drawing unemployment compensation. we are seeing disabilities rise at a rate of 16% every year. one thing which we note that just before president obama took effect, white...
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cliff and debating on the spending increases. then our guest from kaiser health talks about the potential impact of the fiscal cliff on medicare. "washington journal" starts at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> i've been on that list, they are as good as gold. >> all of us in this country are starting to see people coming out and talking about their experience of this phenomenon. though many of us have experienced this in one way or another and have no words for it other than adolescence when growing up. i think there was a moment where there was a possibility for change. the director and i, to start the film, i have the feeling that opinions are bubbling up and coming to the surface to say to say this is something that we can can't accept any more as part of our culture. and he alone has followed up her award-winning film by gathering essays and personal stories together in her book, bully on "after words" on c-span2. find more booktv online and like us on facebook. >> north dakota senator kent conrad said goodbye to the senate on
cliff and debating on the spending increases. then our guest from kaiser health talks about the potential impact of the fiscal cliff on medicare. "washington journal" starts at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> i've been on that list, they are as good as gold. >> all of us in this country are starting to see people coming out and talking about their experience of this phenomenon. though many of us have experienced this in one way or another and have no words for it other...
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then ben bernanke talked about the fiscal cliff that ended that rally, stocks coming off their highs, index, swung 102 points over second, and s&p finished where it began, nascar -- nazdaq down over 8 points, and trading on big board, busiest in the week, walmart a big mover, dropping retailer part of an overall weak group, best answer, profit taking with the sell-off walmart up, 18 -- almost 19ers in on the year, 10 year, yield rising to 1.69%, and crude market, up, joining me now, wells fargo chief economist, john silviia, 6.5% is target for fed chairman and the fed, that is the unemployment rate they want to hit, i have never heard of the fed doing this before. have you? >> no, this is -- there is a danger for fed being so specific. in a particular number, what we've seen, in the last two years, is that the unemployment rate has dropped, for whatever reason, by a 1% each year, that means 7. searc 7 we could be 6.n one year, is that is far ahead of between 15 -- the 2015 in the marketplace. lou: terrible thing about that is and would be, it would be the result of more people leaving
then ben bernanke talked about the fiscal cliff that ended that rally, stocks coming off their highs, index, swung 102 points over second, and s&p finished where it began, nascar -- nazdaq down over 8 points, and trading on big board, busiest in the week, walmart a big mover, dropping retailer part of an overall weak group, best answer, profit taking with the sell-off walmart up, 18 -- almost 19ers in on the year, 10 year, yield rising to 1.69%, and crude market, up, joining me now, wells...
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twice as much tax hike is spending cuts. this inverted, it's the best deal for the republicans, both parties and the president agree, and they can't win anybody if we go ovethe fiscal cliff because that was the deathat they made. tracy: yes, it is crazy. i'm sure you will be talking about it. when you have coming up? >> we have john silva, chief economist at wells fargo to talk about what the new year holds in store for us in the economy. irrespective of the fiscal cliff, we are going to have $270 billion in tax hikes that start effective january 1. thank you, obamacare. nancy pelosi has said that if you want to find out what's in it, just pass it. we are finding out and we are going to have a terrific group of people, including john cruz, the vice president of hsbc, who is the whistleblower on the $1.9 billion in fines if they just had to pay for money laundering along with middle eastern terroris. mexican drug cartels, african dictators, all of the really nice people tht they had no idea where problem. by the way, nobody g
twice as much tax hike is spending cuts. this inverted, it's the best deal for the republicans, both parties and the president agree, and they can't win anybody if we go ovethe fiscal cliff because that was the deathat they made. tracy: yes, it is crazy. i'm sure you will be talking about it. when you have coming up? >> we have john silva, chief economist at wells fargo to talk about what the new year holds in store for us in the economy. irrespective of the fiscal cliff, we are going to...